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Hollywood鈥檚 not laughing as Joker 2 misses the mark with audiences

鈥楯oker 2鈥 stumbles at box office amid poor reviews from audiences and critics
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Joaquin Phoenix arrives at the premiere of 鈥淛oker: Folie a Deux鈥 on Monday, Sept. 30, 2024, at TCL Chinese Theatre in Los Angeles. (Photo by Jordan Strauss/Invision/AP)

is the No. 1 movie at the box office, but it might not be destined for a happy ending.

In a turn of events that only Arthur Fleck would find funny, the follow-up to about the Batman villain opened in theaters nationwide this weekend to a muted $40 million, according to studio estimates Sunday, less than half that of its predecessor. The collapse was swift and has many in the industry wondering: How did with the same creative team go wrong?

Just three weeks ago, tracking services pegged the movie for a $70 million debut, which would still have been down a fair amount from 鈥淛oker鈥檚鈥 record-breaking $96.2 million launch in Oct. 2019. Reviews were mixed out of the , where and even got a 12-minute standing ovation.

But the homecoming glow was short-lived, and the fragile foundation would crumble in the coming weeks with its Rotten Tomatoes score dropping from 63% at Venice to 33% by its first weekend in theaters. Perhaps even more surprising were the audience reviews: Ticket buyers polled on opening night gave the film a deadly D CinemaScore. Exit polls from PostTrak weren鈥檛 any better. It got a meager half star out of five possible.

鈥淭hat鈥檚 a double whammy that鈥檚 very difficult to recover from,鈥 said Paul Dergarabedian, the senior media analyst for Comscore. 鈥淭he biggest issue of all is the reported budget. A $40 or $50 million opening for a less expensive movie would be a solid debut.鈥

鈥淛oker: Folie 脿 Deux鈥 cost at least twice as much as the first film to produce, though reported figures vary at exactly how pricey it was to make. Phillips told Variety that it was less than the reported $200 million; Others have it pegged at $190 million. Warner Bros. released the film in 4,102 locations in North America. About 12.5% of its domestic total came from 415 IMAX screens.

Internationally, it鈥檚 earned $81.1 million from 25,788 screens, bringing its total global earnings estimate to $121.1 million. In the next two weeks, 鈥淛oker 2鈥 will also open in Japan and China.

Second place went to Universal and which added $18.7 million in its second weekend, bringing its domestic total to nearly $64 million. Globally, it鈥檚 made over $100 million. Warner Bros.鈥 took third place in weekend five, Paramount鈥檚 鈥淭ransformers One鈥 landed in fourth and Universal and Blumhouse鈥檚 鈥淪peak No Evil鈥 rounded out the top five.

The other big new release of the weekend, Lionsgate鈥檚 flopped with just $1.5 million from just over 1,000 locations, despite an A+ CinemaScore.

Overall, the weekend is up from the same frame last year, but 鈥淛oker鈥檚鈥 start is an unwelcome twist for theater owners hoping to narrow the box office deficit.

Phillips and star Joaquin Phoenix have said they aspired to make something as 鈥渁udacious鈥 as the first film. The , as a Joker superfan, and delved further into the mind of Arthur Fleck, imprisoned at Arkham and awaiting trial for the murders he committed in the first. It鈥檚 also a musical, with elaborately imagined song and dance numbers to old standards. called 鈥溾橦arlequin,鈥 alongside the film.

In his , Jake Coyle wrote that 鈥淧hillips has followed his very antihero take on the Joker with a very anti-sequel. It combines prison drama, courthouse thriller and musical, and yet turns out remarkably inert given how combustible the original was.鈥

The sequel has already been the subject of many think pieces, some who posit that the sequel was deliberately alienating fans of the first movie. In cruder terms, it鈥檚 been called a 鈥渕iddle finger.鈥 But fans often ignore the advice of critics, especially when it comes to opening their wallets to see revered comic book characters on the big screen.

鈥淭hey took a swing for the fences,鈥 Dergarabedian said. 鈥淏ut except for a couple of outliers, audiences in 2024 seem to want to know what they鈥檙e getting when they鈥檙e going to the theater. They want the tried and true, the familiar.鈥

It has some high-profile defenders too: Francis Ford Coppola, who last week got his own for his pricey, ambitious and divisive film 鈥淢egalopolis,鈥 entered the Joker chat with an Instagram post.

鈥淍ToddPhillips films always amaze me and I enjoy them thoroughly,鈥 Coppola wrote. 鈥淓ver since the wonderful 鈥楾he Hangover鈥 he鈥檚 always one step ahead of the audience never doing what they expect.鈥

鈥淢egalopolis,鈥 meanwhile, dropped a terminal 74% in its second weekend with just over $1 million, bringing its total just shy of $6.5 million against a $120 million budget.

Deadline editor Anthony D鈥橝lessandro thinks the problem started with the idea to make the Joker sequel a musical. 鈥淣o fan of the original movie wanted to see a musical sequel,鈥 he wrote on Saturday.

The and the subject of much discourse, then about whether it might send the wrong message to the wrong type of person. And yet people still flocked to see what the fuss was about. 鈥淛oker鈥 went on to pick up 11 Oscar nominations, including best picture and best director, and three wins. It also made over $1 billion and was the highest-grossing R-rated film of all time, until this summer when Marvel鈥檚 鈥淒eadpool & Wolverine鈥 took the crown.

Estimated ticket sales for Friday through Sunday at U.S. and Canadian theaters, according to Comscore. Final domestic figures will be released Monday.

1. 鈥淛oker: Folie 脿 Deux,鈥 $40 million.

2. 鈥淭he Wild Robot,鈥 $18.7 million.

3. 鈥淏eetlejuice Beetlejuice,鈥 $10.3 million.

4. 鈥淭ransformers One,鈥 $5.4 million.

5. 鈥淪peak No Evil,鈥 $2.8 million.

6. 鈥淪am and Colby: The Legends of Paranormal,鈥 $1.8 million.

7. 鈥淲hite Bird,鈥 $1.5 million.

8. 鈥淒eadpool & Wolverine,鈥 $1.5 million.

9. 鈥淭he Substance,鈥 $1.3 million.

10. 鈥淢egalopolis,鈥 $1.1 million.





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